Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/17/2002 01:45 PM House EDU

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
            HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                                
    HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                         
    SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVCIES COMMITTEE                                                                        
                       April 17, 2002                                                                                           
                         1:45 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 02 - 87, Side A                                                                                                        
TAPE HFC 02 - 87, Side B                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder called the meeting to order at 1:45 P.M.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eldon Mulder, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Con Bunde, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative John Davies                                                                                                      
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
Representative Ken Lancaster                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Con Bunde                                                                                                        
Representative Joe Green                                                                                                        
Representative Gretchen Guess                                                                                                   
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Brian Porter                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fred Dyson                                                                                                       
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
Representative Gary Stevens                                                                                                     
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVCIES COMMITTEE                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
Senator Jerry Ward                                                                                                              
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Hudson                                                                                                          
 Representative Foster                                                                                                          
 Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                      
 Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Lisa Murkowski; Senator Donny Olson; Shirley                                                                    
 Holloway, Commissioner,  Department  of  Education &  Early                                                                    
 Development;  Richard  DeLorenzo,  Superintendent,  Chugach                                                                    
 School District;  Tom  Vander  Ark,  Executive Director  of                                                                    
 Education,  Gates  Foundation;  Nathaniel  Moore,  Student,                                                                    
 Chugach School  District; Debbie  Treece,  Teacher, Chugach                                                                    
 School District;  Devon Totemoff,  Student,  Chugach School                                                                    
 District; Doris Bander, School Board Member, Chugach School                                                                    
 District; Virginia Bitter,  School Board  President, Eileen                                                                    
 Totemoff,  School  Board  Member,  Parent,  Chugach  School                                                                    
 District;  Dottie Prosman,  School  Board  Member,  Chugach                                                                    
 School District                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes                                                                     
and handouts will be on file with the House Finance                                                                             
Committee through the 22nd Legislative Session, contact 465-                                                                    
2156. After the 22nd Legislative Session they will be                                                                           
available through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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                   HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
             HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                               
     HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                        
     SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVCIES COMMITTEE                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                  Standards Based Education                                                                                     
     Gates Foundations' Contribution to Education in AK                                                                         
            Baldrige Plan Used by Chugach School                                                                                
         District to Improve the Educational Program                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
 LOG SPEAKER                DISCUSSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
      TAPE HFC 02 - 87                                                                                                        
      SIDE A                                                                                                                  
 000 Co-Chair Mulder        Called the Committee meeting to order at                                                            
                            1:45 P.M.                                                                                         
 128 Co-Chair Mulder        Noted that the Chugach School District                                                              
                            received the Baldrige National Quality                                                              
                            Award in Washington D.C.  He noted that                                                             
                            it was a very prestigious award and only                                                            
                            three school districts in the United                                                                
                            States has ever received that award.  Co-                                                         
                           Chair Mulder told members that it was an                                                             
                           opportunity to hear an education success                                                             
                           story.                                                                                             
238 Co-Chair Mulder        Introduced the speakers, Tom Vander Ark,                                                             
                           Education component, Gates Foundation;                                                               
                           Nathaniel Moore, the student that                                                                    
                           received the award; Debbie Treece; and                                                               
                           Richard DeLorenzo, Superintendent,                                                                   
                           Chugach School.  Co-Chair Mulder advised                                                             
                           that the Chugach School district is one                                                              
                           place where no student is left behind.                                                             
321 RICHARD DELORENZO,     Spoke about the Malcolm Baldrige National                                                            
      SUPERINTENDENT,      Quality Award.  Mr. DeLorenzo commented                                                              
      CHUGACH SCHOOL       on the rigorous process in attempting to                                                             
      DISTRICT             achieve the award.  He introduced the                                                                
                           Board members of the Chugach School                                                                  
                           District, Devon Totemoff, student;                                                                   
                           Virginia Bitter, School Board President,                                                             
                           Eileen Totemoff, School Board Member; and                                                            
                           Dottie Prosman, School Board Member.                                                               
525 NATHANIEL MOORE,       Introduced Mr. Tom Vander Ark, Executive                                                             
      STUDENT, CHUGACH     Director of Education, Gates Foundation.                                                           
      SCHOOL DISTRICT                                                                                                           
602 TOM VANDER ARK,        Noted that the Gates Foundation is                                                                   
      EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR   interested in "helping" learning.  The                                                               
     OF EDUCATION, THE    Foundation works internationally in                                                                   
     GATES FOUNDATION     health and learning.  In health, the                                                                  
                           Foundation works internationally in                                                                  
                           vaccine preventable diseases.  In                                                                    
                           learning, the Foundation works in two                                                                
                           areas, libraries and education.  He noted                                                            
                           that they would be making a grant for                                                                
                           Alaska libraries this summer.  Mr. Vander                                                            
                           Ark pointed out that the Foundation works                                                            
                           in every state and territory in the                                                                  
                           nation to make sure that every library is                                                            
                           up to date with computers.  Mr. Vander                                                               
                           Ark stated that the Foundation looks                                                                 
                           forward to working with the State of                                                                 
                           Alaska in these library projects.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
709                        Mr. Vander Ark commented that in                                                                     
                           education, the Gates Foundation is                                                                   
                           interested in helping every student                                                                  
                           succeed.  A few years ago, the Foundation                                                            
                           made grants to the school districts.  He                                                             
                           noted that a few years ago, the Gates                                                                
                           Foundation searched the country for                                                                  
                           examples of success in the education                                                                 
                           system and found that one of the best                                                                
                           examples in the U.S. was the Chugach                                                                 
                           School District.  That district had                                                                
                            designed a system that works for all                                                                
                            students.                                                                                         
 785 Mr. Vander Ark         Their approach continues to improve over                                                            
                            time.  The most serious issue in the                                                                
                            United States at this time, is attempting                                                           
                            to find systems that work for the                                                                   
                            students.  The Chugach system holds                                                                 
                            promise for the entire nation.  Mr.                                                                 
                            Vander Ark added that the Gates                                                                     
                            Foundation appreciates being able to                                                                
                            offer some support to that district to                                                              
                            teach other districts how to accomplish                                                             
                            that.  The Chugach approach teaches about                                                           
                            the success of scale.  He reiterated that                                                           
                            the Chugach has created an educational                                                              
                            system that works for all students.                                                               
 810 Mr. Vander Ark         Noted that the focus of the Gates                                                                   
                            Foundation has been narrowed to the high                                                            
                            school level only.  That level is the                                                               
                            worse part of the United States system                                                              
                            and that level is the most difficult to                                                             
                            change.  The Chugach work is important to                                                           
                            transform school districts and can be a                                                             
                            great model to help improve American                                                                
                            secondary schools.  He added that the                                                               
                            work done by the Chugach School holds                                                               
                            great promise for small rural schools.                                                            
 859 Mr. Vander Ark         Noted that the Gates  Foundation supports                                                           
                            the concept of small schools.  He noted                                                             
                            that they encourage the development of                                                              
                            smaller schools throughout the Nation.                                                              
                            Alaska has a benefit of having many small                                                           
                            schools, already and the Chugach model                                                              
                            holds great promise for the small school                                                            
                            idea.  He spoke to the idea of breaking                                                             
                            larger schools into smaller units.  The                                                             
                            Chugach School District work holds                                                                  
                            promise for creating success of scale and                                                           
                            for rethinking American secondary                                                                   
                            schools.                                                                                          
 1023 Vice-Chair Bunde      Asked if there would be discussion                                                                  
                            regarding the other school districts,                                                               
                            which the Gates Foundation is currently                                                             
                           working with.                                                                                      
 1104 Mr. DeLorenzo         Noted that they would be discussing that                                                            
                            later in the presentation.                                                                        
 1123 NATHIEL MOORE,        Addressed Page #1 of the handout:                                                                   
      STUDENT, CHUGACH      Obstacles to High Achievement                                                                       
      SCHOOL DISTRICT                                                                                                           
                              · Unhealthy Family/Community                                                                      
                              · Student Apathy                                                                                  
                              · Lack of Parental Involvement                                                                    
                              · Lack of Meaningful Curriculum                                                                 
                              · Specific Needs of Students                                                                      
                             · Funding                                                                                          
                              · No Site Plan                                                                                    
                              · Poor Professional Development                                                                   
                              · Teacher Burnout                                                                               
1209 Mr. Moore             He added that the original Chugach School                                                            
                           District was based on:                                                                               
                              · Credit or "Seat Time"                                                                           
                              · Graded System                                                                                   
                              · Disconnected Reporting                                                                          
                              · Text Book Curriculum                                                                            
                              · No School to Life Plan                                                                          
                              · Individual needs not met                                                                        
                              · Institutionally Centered                                                                        
                           Mr. Moore outlined the difference with                                                               
                                         st                                                                                     
                           the current 21 Century Chugach School                                                                
                           District system:                                                                                     
                              · Performance Based System                                                                        
                              · Developmental Levels                                                                            
                              · P-14 Report Card (DRC)                                                                          
                              · Standards-Based Resources                                                                       
                              · Comprehensive School to Life                                                                    
                              · Individual Learning Plans                                                                       
                              · Student Centered                                                                              
1308 DEVON TOTEMOFF,       Spoke to the School to Life Program,                                                                 
      STUDENT, CHUGACH     Phases 1, 2 & 3.                                                                                   
      SCHOOL DISTRICT                                                                                                           
1423 Mr. Moore             Interjected that there currently is no                                                               
                           Phase 4, however, some students travel                                                               
                           abroad to complete the program.                                                                    
1455 Co-Chair Mulder       Asked how old were the students when they                                                            
                           travel to the Anchorage House.                                                                     
1507 Mr. Moore             Explained that there is not a specific                                                               
                           age.  With the report card, there are                                                                
                           levels that must be passed through and                                                               
                           that student needs to be a certain level                                                             
                           to be in that House.                                                                               
1528 REPRESENTATIVE JOE    Asked if he chose the country, which Mr.                                                             
      GREEN                Moore would be traveling too.                                                                      
155- Mr. Moore             Replied it was presented as an option.                                                             
1603 DORIS BENDER, SCHOOL Commented on the difference from the                                                                  
      BOARD MEMBER,        original school district to the current                                                              
      CHUGACH SCHOOL       district which is more student centered                                                              
      DISTRICT             rather than institutionally centered.                                                                
                           She stressed that the Chugach School                                                                 
                           Board was concerned that their children                                                              
                           were not being educated.  The district                                                               
                           did not know how to accomplish what they                                                             
                           wanted for their kids.  The system seemed                                                          
                            to be "falling apart".  She noted that                                                              
                            their previous superintendent was                                                                   
                            retiring and they chose Roger Samson as                                                             
                            the replacement.  Ms. Bender stated that                                                            
                            they told him that they wanted every                                                                
                            child in the district to be able to read                                                            
                            at all costs.  She stated that the hired                                                            
                            Mr. DeLorenzo as the assistant                                                                      
                            superintendent of the school.  The                                                                  
                            education system was totally changed, and                                                           
                            that the Department of Education & Early                                                            
                            Development provided the needed waivers.                                                            
                            The education system was totally changed                                                            
                            and that the business end of the school                                                             
                            district was also going through the same                                                            
                            change.  The money can be accounted for.                                                          
 1822 Mr. Moore             Referenced the continuous Improvement                                                               
                            Cycle (PDER) which has relevant standards                                                           
                            that includes:                                                                                      
                              · Effective Instruction                                                                           
                              · Meaningful Reporting                                                                            
                              · Multiple Assessments                                                                          
 1918 DEBBIE TREECE,        Interjected that the (PDER) represents                                                              
      PARENT & TEACHER,     where the Baldrige Award came in.  That                                                             
     CHUGACH SCHOOL        established accountability and new                                                                   
      DISTRICT              language for the administration.                                                                    
                              · Plan,                                                                                           
                              · Review,                                                                                         
                              · Re-evaluate. and                                                                                
                              · Refine.                                                                                         
                              These became the four highlighted                                                                 
                              aspects of a successful program.  All                                                             
                              four pieces must be addressed in order                                                            
                              for there to be a successful cycle.                                                             
 2005 Mr. Moore             Referenced Page 3 - the Organizational                                                              
                                                             th                                                                 
                            Performance Results scores from 4                                                                   
                            graders CAT test taken in 1994-95.  That                                                            
                            was the year that the system was started.                                                           
                            Again in 1998-99, the same students took                                                            
                            the test again and the results improved                                                             
                            immensely.                                                                                        
 2046 Mr. Moore             Page 3 - the high school qualifying exam                                                            
                           percentages.                                                                                       
 2108 Mr. Moore             Referenced Page 4 - SAB Snapshot, which                                                             
                            shows how the performance report card                                                               
                            looks.  There are ten areas on the report                                                           
                            card and the squares represent different                                                            
                            levels.  The report card indicates levels                                                           
                            that the student needs to graduate and                                                              
                            also indicates what a student can do                                                                
                            above and beyond in order to graduate.                                                            
2210 Mr. Moore             Page 4 - Shows a copy of the high school                                                             
                           diploma and the school district level                                                                
                           required proficiency performance.                                                                  
2252 Ms. Treece            Noted that prospective business employers                                                            
                           like to know the strengths of the                                                                    
                           students that they hire and the manner in                                                            
                           which the diploma is written helps to see                                                            
                           that at a glance to see the strengths.                                                             
2323 Ms. Treece            State that a video would be shown.  The                                                              
                           video would run for a total of eight                                                                 
                           minute.  No minutes were taken during the                                                            
                           video.                                                                                             
2441 Mr. DeLorenzo         Commented that students must feel                                                                    
                           connected to their peers and the adult                                                               
                           involved with them.  There must be                                                                   
                           relevance and passion involved in                                                                    
                           teaching.  The best systems help the                                                                 
                           student develop their passion for life.                                                            
2537 Co-Chair Mulder       Commented on the amount of community                                                                 
                           involvement in the school district.                                                                
2548 Mr. DeLorenzo         Responded that the critical portion of                                                               
                           the success is about building a                                                                      
                           relationship.  The community was invited                                                             
                           to be a part of the schools to create a                                                              
                           win-win situation so that they could                                                                 
                           become a part of the program.  That took                                                             
                           one year.  Now they want to know what                                                                
                           role that they can pay to help their kids                                                            
                           be successful.  Everyone has that                                                                    
                           aspiration and value.  Without the shared                                                            
                           vision, it would have not happened.                                                                
2647 Mr. Vander Ark        Pointed out that Chugach began a                                                                     
                           "conversation" with their community with                                                             
                           basic questions.  Most school districts                                                              
                           take State standards for granted.  School                                                            
                           districts that are working well never                                                                
                           make that assumption about the standards.                                                            
                           They begin a conversation with their                                                                 
                           community regarding how the world has                                                                
                           changed and what needs to be done to keep                                                            
                           up with it.  Then, a shared sense of                                                                 
                           standards was developed to create broad                                                              
                           ownership.                                                                                         
2759 Vice-Chair Bunde      Pointed out that schools are reflections                                                             
                           of their communities and questioned how                                                              
                           the communities were "won" over to the                                                               
                           value of education.                                                                                
2931 Mr. DeLorenzo         Noted that his area, there were 75% of                                                               
                           the people living below poverty level.                                                               
                           People want to be successful and they                                                                
                           want opportunities.  It can be done with                                                             
                           good leadership.  The parents have become                                                            
                           leaders and advocates because they were                                                            
                            involved.  Taking time and being part of                                                            
                            the process is the key to success.                                                                
 3044 Representative        Asked for more information about the                                                                
      Davies                teacher training aspect of the program.                                                           
 3059 Mr. DeLorenzo         Once the profile of the teachers was                                                                
                            understood then they know how to make a                                                             
                            difference.  Mr. DeLorenzo claimed that                                                             
                            their teachers do 30 days of in-service;                                                            
                            and that only 10 of days are part of a                                                              
                            negotiated agreement required by                                                                    
                            contract.  The reason that they come to                                                             
                            that is because they got to design and                                                              
                            implement what they want to teach.  That                                                            
                            relationship with the teachers has been                                                             
                            critical.  The District just signed a 3-                                                            
                            year performance pay contract to                                                                    
                            benchmark the teacher's work.  The                                                                  
                            District is looking for teacher focus,                                                              
                            innovative and agile with best practices.                                                         
 3204 Representative        Commented on the assistance given                                                                   
      Harris                students after granulation.                                                                       
 3229 Mr. DeLorenzo         Noted that the kids are being tracked.                                                              
                            They fill out surveys about what they are                                                           
                            dong after graduation and how they could                                                            
                            be better prepared at the high school                                                               
                            level.  It is part of a system's                                                                    
                            approach.                                                                                         
 3304 Representative        Asked what the difference between the old                                                           
      Harris                system of education and the current one                                                             
                            being used by the district.                                                                       
 3325 Mr. Moore             Observed that students now know what they                                                           
                            need to do to succeed.  Students                                                                    
                            understand better where they are in the                                                             
                            system.                                                                                           
 3392 Mr. DeLorenzo         Interjected that the system tells the                                                               
                            students that they own the system and                                                               
                            that it is a system of life.  That is                                                               
                            what an educational system should be                                                                
                            about.                                                                                            
 3458 Ms. Totemoff          Noted that she is not being rushed into                                                             
                            her work and that she is able to work at                                                            
                            her own pace and take her time.  She                                                                
                            noted that she had transferred into the                                                             
                            system and it was difficult to adjust to                                                            
                            however, she was always met at her own                                                              
                            level.                                                                                            
 3619 Mr. DeLorenzo         Thought that the old system was not                                                                 
                            designed to teach all students, but                                                                 
                            rather to be an industrial model, to sort                                                           
                            and segregate kids.  To educate all                                                                 
                            children, the system had to be redesigned                                                           
                            to meet each child's level.  That must                                                              
                            happen in order to make every kid in                                                              
                           America successful.                                                                                
3655 Representative Green Observed that the teacher is the key                                                                  
                           lynch pin.  He questioned how the                                                                    
                           teachers were brought into the system and                                                            
                           what happened to those teachers that did                                                             
                           not have the desire to change.                                                                     
3726 Mr. DeLorenzo         Explained that teachers were brought in                                                              
                           gradually.  He observed that their                                                                   
                           teachers could fall into one of three                                                                
                           categories: 20% - cheerleaders, 60% -                                                                
                           show me, 20% - "over my dead body".                                                                  
                           Those people are critical and often have                                                             
                           the strongest personalities.  If they                                                                
                           were not able to come along, they are                                                                
                           asked to find another system.  He pointed                                                            
                           out that most teachers came along.  He                                                               
                           added that this is the first year that                                                               
                           the Chugach School District is not going                                                             
                           to the job fair.  Every year, they offer                                                             
                           one contract for two teachers, because                                                               
                           they want to work in the system as it                                                                
                           makes sense.                                                                                       
3923 Mr. DeLorenzo         In response to a question by                                                                         
                           Representative Green, Mr. DeLorenzo                                                                  
                           explained that they start with a best                                                                
                           practices model.  Each student knows                                                                 
                           where he or she wants to go and direct                                                               
                           instruction is given at each level. He                                                               
                           added that students work with each other                                                             
                           to come along as a team.                                                                           
4132 SENATOR LORAN LEMAN Noted that lack of parental involvement                                                                
                           had been a barrier.  He asked how parents                                                            
                           were encouraged to become invested into                                                              
                           the system.                                                                                        
4209 EILEEN TOTEMOFF,      Commented that parents wanted to see a                                                               
      PARENT, CHUGACH      change for their children and the                                                                    
      SCHOOL DISTRICT      community told the superintendent that                                                               
                           they wanted to see change for their                                                                  
                           children.  The program began with the                                                                
                           "honor to excellence" idea.  The                                                                     
                           community agreed that they had not been                                                              
                           previously successful with the kids.                                                               
4449 Senator Leman         Questioned the affects of transfers in                                                               
                           and out of the system.                                                                             
4507 Mr. DeLorenzo         Responded that the difficulty is in the                                                              
                           junior high school level when they cannot                                                            
                           read.  The student's effort and energy is                                                            
                           important.  Students are helped to move                                                              
                           along the continuum, but they are shown                                                              
                           where they need to go.  He stressed that                                                             
                           they are on the leading edge of the                                                                  
                           educational forum, but that they are                                                                 
                           figuring it out as they go along.  There                                                           
                            are not models.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
      TAPE HFC 02 - 87,                                                                                                       
      Side B                                                                                                                  
 4714 Mr. DeLorenzo         Observed that their seniors are busy                                                                
                            working toward beating the standards.                                                             
 4534 Vice-Chair Bunde      Quoted, that if the students in the rest                                                            
                            of Alaska "spend as much on trying to                                                               
                            make the standards as they do on                                                                    
                            basketball" then there would not be a                                                               
                            problem.                                                                                          
 4459 Mr. DeLorenzo         Advised that at this time, there are five                                                           
                            school districts that have gone to the                                                              
                            Department of Education & Early                                                                     
                            Development to request waivers.  He                                                                 
                            stressed that it is a "huge" paradigm                                                               
                            shift.  Additionally, there are nine                                                                
                            districts that are also interested.  He                                                             
                            added that Mr. Vander Ark would accompany                                                           
                            him to listen to these people in their                                                              
                            desire to improve their systems.  The                                                               
                            Seattle School District is very                                                                     
                            interested and they have implemented many                                                           
                            initiatives to implement the program.  He                                                           
                            maintained that best practices could work                                                           
                            anywhere.  He claimed that the goal was                                                             
                            to get 20 percent of the State's school                                                             
                            districts to work toward better education                                                           
                            practices.  The Chugach District has                                                                
                            received inquiries from all over the                                                                
                            world.                                                                                            
 4201 Mr. Vander Ark        Informed members that the Gates                                                                     
                            Foundation makes investments were there                                                             
                            is need, leadership and an ability to                                                               
                            make an impact.  He stated that there is                                                            
                            a potential to duplicate the success of                                                             
                            Chugach as they now have a demonstrated                                                             
                            model.                                                                                            
 4005 Mr. Vander Ark        Noted that the Gates Foundation is                                                                  
                            interested in addressing needs in the                                                               
                            high school years.  He spoke to "rigor                                                              
                            and relationship".  The high schools that                                                           
                            succeed are personalized and performance                                                            
                            based.  The manner in which to attack the                                                           
                            "senior year dilemma" is to make those                                                              
                            students responsible to demonstrate                                                                 
                            leaning.  In the past 100 years, we have                                                            
                            only asked students to accumulate                                                                   
                            credits.  Now most high schools offer                                                               
                            optional tracks of varying difficultly.                                                             
                            Schools offer different tracks toward                                                               
                            graduation with less adult guidance.  He                                                            
                            maintained that students are choosing the                                                           
                            path of less resistance.  Chugach has                                                             
                           changed from an accumulation of credits                                                              
                           to a demonstration of attainment.                                                                  
3755 Mr. Vander Ark        The goal is to prepare every student                                                                 
                           toward a goal of college to the student                                                              
                           and post secondary success.  There needs                                                             
                           to be a variety of pathways from school,                                                             
                           to higher education to work. He spoke to                                                             
                           the "early model" in that every student's                                                            
                           leaves with two years of college                                                                     
                           education.  In many communities it would                                                             
                           mean bringing college to the student.                                                              
3607 Mr. Vander Ark        The intent is that students leave                                                                    
                           academically prepared for college but                                                                
                           also have a real world exposure and can                                                              
                           make good choices.  He encouraged the                                                                
                           Legislature to develop some incentives                                                               
                           and schools to develop partnerships with                                                             
                           higher education to create more diverse                                                              
                           pathways.                                                                                          
3521 REPRESENTATIVE        Asked how the rural students can be                                                                  
      SHARON CISSNA        prepared for urban life.                                                                           
3424 Mr. DeLorenzo         Replied that it must return to the going                                                             
                           back to the values of the community. He                                                              
                           claimed that there are five values that                                                              
                           are important to everyone including                                                                  
                           students, teachers and business-people:                                                              
                              · Basic skills,                                                                                   
                              · Individual needs of the children,                                                               
                              · Personal social development,                                                                    
                              · Transition technology, and                                                                      
                              · Cultural expression.                                                                          
3308 Mr. DeLorenzo         Observed that the challenge is to provide                                                            
                           an economic base for everyone in order to                                                            
                           be able to live wherever they want.                                                                
3231 REPRESENTATIVE PEGGY Noted that the teacher turnover went from                                                             
      WILSON               54% to 12% and this year no new teachers                                                             
                           were needed.  She asked if the pay had                                                               
                           increased.                                                                                         
3211 Mr. DeLorenzo         Noted that step and column raises were                                                               
                           frozen and replaced with performance.                                                                
                           They all make a certain performance pay.                                                             
                           There is a clear road map of what an                                                                 
                           excellent teacher looks like.  Teachers                                                              
                           can earn up to $6 thousand dollars extra                                                             
                           without increasing their step and column.                                                            
                           The Chugach teachers decided to average                                                              
                           the teacher's scores and give the same                                                               
                           amount to all.  The incentive is for the                                                             
                           high scoring teachers to mentor the low                                                              
                           performing teachers in order to bring the                                                            
                           whole up.  All the money placed into                                                                 
                           teachers pay, goes into performance pay.                                                           
                            The goal is to attempt to have the                                                                  
                            teachers be the highest paid in Alaska                                                              
                            based on performance, not time.                                                                   
 3037 Representative        Questioned how scores are achieved.                                                               
      Wilson                                                                                                                    
 2930 Mr. DeLorenzo         Discussed that there are 70 continuums                                                              
                            with 6 levels.  Each teacher is scored                                                              
                            after a four-hour evaluation.  If they                                                              
                            score 4, then the next time, they know                                                              
                            where they need to go score higher.  He                                                             
                            noted that they would reevaluate one                                                                
                            month later because they want their                                                                 
                            teachers to score well.                                                                           
 2934 Mr. DeLorenzo         Clarified that Chugach models a 13-14 to                                                            
                            one student/teacher ratio.  The kids are                                                            
                            responsible for their success.  He did                                                              
                            not think that the size of the class had                                                            
                            a lot to do with the success.  He noted                                                             
                            that larger systems are duplicating the                                                             
                            results with larger ratios.  He                                                                     
                            acknowledged that there are advantages                                                              
                            with the fewer student/teacher ratios.                                                            
 2834 Representative Green Observed that the merit pay is successful                                                            
                            but questioned how in a large school                                                                
                            district such as Anchorage, could the                                                               
                            teachers and union be encouraged to                                                                 
                            accept it and evaluate it fairly.                                                                 
 2746 Mr. DeLorenzo         Explained that teachers were involved in                                                            
                            the process and then the Unions bought                                                              
                            into the model.  He clarified that as the                                                           
                            leader "selling" the package, it took a                                                             
                            year to convince them to develop the                                                                
                            model.  During the teacher service days,                                                            
                            it was discussed how to benchmark what                                                              
                            the best practices for teacher evaluation                                                           
                            should be, synthesize that information,                                                             
                            create a model, and then refine it.  The                                                            
                            success of it resulted because they                                                                 
                            bought into it as a result of being a                                                               
                            part of the process.                                                                              
 2655 Ms. Treece            In response to comments by Representative                                                           
                            Green and teacher turnover, Ms. Treece                                                              
                            explained that as a teacher she was part                                                            
                            of the entire process.  The group decided                                                           
                            to base success on performance.  She                                                                
                            stressed that the teaching staff decided                                                            
                            together to come together as a team.                                                              
 2406 Representative        Observed that the Gates Foundation has                                                              
      Davies                provided a significant amount of money                                                              
                            and asked how other larger districts such                                                           
                            as Seattle are dealing with the costs.                                                            
 2306 Mr. DeLorenzo         Explained that part of the Baldrige                                                                 
                            process is that the school district must                                                          
                           demonstrate that the results can be                                                                  
                           replicated without the additional funds.                                                             
                           That is part of the mission and it must                                                              
                           be proven.  The Chugach School District                                                              
                           gives away more than $2.8 million dollars                                                            
                           a year to help other districts.  The                                                                 
                           Chugach District could continue to exist                                                             
                           without any additional funds.  He                                                                    
                           maintained that district receives $3,600                                                             
                           dollars per new student, which is below                                                              
                           what Anchorage receives.                                                                           
2113 Mr. DeLorenzo         Pointed out that through the Gate's                                                                  
                           Foundation, there are 5 coalition                                                                    
                           districts.  The Foundation gives money                                                               
                           based on the average daily membership                                                                
                           (ADM).  That money is used to take time                                                              
                           to do the intensive in-service training                                                              
                           to understand what the model looks like.                                                             
                           There are community meetings to create                                                               
                           the system.  It could be continued                                                                   
                           without the money.  Today, there are nine                                                            
                           districts that are doing it without any                                                              
                           money.                                                                                             
2019 Representative        Asked if it was important to have some                                                               
      Davies               "transition" money.                                                                                
1959 Mr. DeLorenzo         It would help to accelerate the process.                                                           
1933 Mr. Vander Ark        Interjected that the districts are                                                                   
                           "remodeling" their academic systems.  It                                                             
                           would be like remodeling your house                                                                  
                           without any new funds and would require a                                                            
                           lot of "sweat" equity.  Mr. Vander Ark                                                               
                           commented on the many wonderful small                                                                
                           schools throughout the country.  There                                                               
                           are 2400 charter schools, private and                                                                
                           catholic schools, and all of those                                                                   
                           schools operate on a shoestring.  They                                                               
                           all operate under the same per pupil                                                                 
                           allocation as the larger schools.  The                                                               
                           larger schools need to be funded                                                                     
                           differently.  In a big district, there is                                                            
                           a different formula for distributing the                                                             
                           money.  With the money broken up into                                                                
                           little parts, it is difficult to start                                                               
                           and operate a small school.  If the                                                                  
                           district average was determined and then                                                             
                           given to the small districts, they could                                                             
                           then figure it out.  At some point, there                                                            
                           becomes a "big dis" economy of scale.                                                                
                           Big schools have a larger percentage of                                                              
                           non-classroom adults and teachers to                                                                 
                           their staffing model.  In the smaller                                                                
                           schools, everybody teaches.                                                                        
1702 Mr. Vander Ark        Spoke to the capital side of the process.                                                          
                            He claimed that small schools can be                                                                
                            built and operated for less money,                                                                  
                            however, it must be done differently.  It                                                           
                            must begin with the assumption that every                                                           
                            high school does not need 40 acres and a                                                            
                            swimming pool.  Those assumptions created                                                           
                            much money in fixed costs.  Small schools                                                           
                            need to be more creative and worked more                                                            
                            closely with the community and community                                                            
                            based organizations.  He stressed that it                                                           
                            is currently happening all over the                                                                 
                            country and the small schools are                                                                   
                            accelerating throughout the country.                                                              
 1552 Representative        Asked about the effect of the buy in on                                                             
      Davies                discipline issues.                                                                                
 1536 Ms. Treece            Explained that the frustration level has                                                            
                            decreased with the new concept.  Reaction                                                           
                            comes from a negative way.  She                                                                     
                            acknowledged that there does continue to                                                            
                            be issues that must be addressed in the                                                             
                            classroom.  With the new model, the                                                                 
                            teachers have more time to find out what                                                            
                            the problem is.                                                                                   
 1421 Mr. DeLorenzo         Mentioned the training in conflict                                                                  
                            resolution.  He commented that there are                                                            
                            opportunities for the student to apply                                                              
                            all their new skills.                                                                             
 1338 REPRESENTATIVE        Voiced his appreciation for the work of                                                             
      REGGIE JOULE          the district.  He noted how Chugach had                                                             
                            undertaken changing the entire system and                                                           
                            understood the challenges of that work.                                                             
                            He asked if there were universities that                                                            
                            the students were being geared toward.                                                            
 1144 Mr. DeLorenzo         Responded that Job Corp has a 98%                                                                   
                            placement rate.  There is some training                                                             
                            doing the placement well.  The students                                                             
                            have enough resiliency skills that they                                                             
                            will be successful in whatever situations                                                           
                            they move toward.  He claimed that the                                                              
                            drop out rate declines when students are                                                            
                            introduced to the Baldrige system.  The                                                             
                            kids are now successful in areas that                                                               
                            there were not previously successful.                                                             
 1002 Vice-Chair Bunde      Referenced university students and                                                                  
                            faculty ratio.                                                                                    
 942 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN He thought that the learning plan brought                                                              
      COGHILL               all the parties together.  He asked how                                                             
                            the special education factor would be                                                               
                            addressed.                                                                                        
 907 Mr. DeLorenzo          Noted that they have created a system,                                                              
                            which eliminates the special education                                                              
                            component.  All teachers are special                                                                
                            education teachers and all students are                                                           
                           "special".  The teachers are taught to be                                                            
                           diagnostic education teachers so that                                                                
                           they can help the kids with the means                                                                
                           that they have.  There are simpler tools                                                             
                           to use.  He noted that he has worked at                                                              
                           creating a system to eliminate the                                                                   
                           special education system.  The special                                                               
                           education system does not work for the                                                               
                           majority of the kids.  It labels and                                                                 
                           stigmatizes and they end up dropping out                                                             
                           of school.  In the new model, children                                                               
                           are special and the teachers attempt to                                                              
                           help them develop their passion and needs                                                            
                           to be successful in life.                                                                          
758 Ms. Treece             Noted that she is not only a teacher but                                                             
                           also a parent of a special needs child.                                                              
                           Living in the Whittier district, that                                                                
                           school district accommodated his needs.                                                              
                           Every child has strengths and weakness.                                                              
                           Removing the labels makes each child feel                                                            
                           unique.  She commented on self-                                                                      
                           empowerment for each student.                                                                      
645 Representative         Agreed for the need for the "road map"                                                               
      Coghill              and parental involvement.  He thought                                                                
                           that there was a trust based on                                                                      
                           communication in the community.                                                                    
615 Ms. Treece             Responded that the individual learning                                                               
                           plan is a tool.  Parents come on board                                                               
                           when the actually see the success of                                                                 
                           their child.                                                                                       
525 Mr. DeLorenzo          Many students have testified that their                                                              
                           lives were turned around.  He argued that                                                            
                           special education does not meet kids at                                                              
                           their performance level.  The Chugach                                                                
                           system is works in a "good way".                                                                   
422 Representative         Commented that special education rules                                                               
      Wilson               are federal.  She asked how that could be                                                            
                           rolled into a program.                                                                             
352 Mr. DeLorenzo          Responded that the majority of students                                                              
                           are not certified.  Some severe students                                                             
                           are certified under speech, but the                                                                  
                           majority of the students are not                                                                     
                           certified as their needs are being met in                                                            
                           other ways..                                                                                       
331 Vice-Chair Bunde       Voiced his appreciation for everyone who                                                             
                           was willing to participate in the                                                                    
                           discussion.  He asked the role of the                                                                
                           Legislature in continuing the success of                                                             
                           the program.                                                                                       
255 Mr. DeLorenzo          Responded that this vision must be taken                                                             
                           as a quality schools initiative,                                                                     
                           establish some type of outside evaluation                                                            
                           to look at the school districts in Alaska                                                          
                            and how they score, send it to the                                                                  
                            Baldrige group to determine a performance                                                           
                            schedule for each district.  The best                                                               
                            districts should be given additional                                                                
                            money to help other districts get better.                                                           
                            He argued that the $26 million dollars                                                              
                            being spent on education would not make a                                                           
                            difference if it were just being                                                                    
                            repackaged like before.  The entire                                                                 
                            funding formula for schools needs to be                                                             
                            revamped.  Such action could make Alaska                                                            
                            the leader in the United State.  Mr.                                                                
                            DeLorenzo offered to help show how to                                                               
                            create that new paradigm.                                                                         
 120 Vice-Chair Bunde       ADJOURNMENT  The meeting was adjourned at                                                         
                            3:34 P.M.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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